The chances of you being 80% right are very slim

We discuss Urban's appearances on other podcasts (that you should listen to!) as well as Monica handling layoffs from the point of view of a manager.

• On the maintainable podcast with Robby Russel: https://www.maintainable.fm/episodes/urban-hafner-management-isnt-for-everyone
• On the Code With Jason podcast: https://www.codewithjason.com/podcast/10785120-150-urban-hafner/

• You can reach us via email at hosts@expandingbeyond.it.
• You can follow us on Twitter at @podcast_eb.

Where to find Monica on the internet:

• Website: monicag.me
• Twitter: @KFMolli
• Github: @nirnaeth
• Blog: dev.to/nirnaeth

Where to find Urban on the internet:

• Twitter: @ujh
• Github: @ujh
• Blog: urbanhafner.com

The intro and outro music is Our Big Adventure by Scott Holmes. It's licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International (CC BY-NC 4.0).